Оригинал: ОРТ, программа “Воскресное время”, 09 сентября 2012 (Вс)
сюжет http://www.1tv.ru/news/world/215116
мои кадры: 00:49-00:50 и 03:40-04:06
подпись к моему видео: YouTube.com/BELOV3RUS
Перевод текста: Rose
Титры: Юрий Гавриков http://gayury.livejournal.com/
Откуда украдены бергенские кадры:
моя запись в газете https://www.bergenrabbit.net/?p=3534
мой ролик на ютубе https://youtu.be/Ny46Qrji4vc
Это съемки машины, на которую посадили детей, чтобы они не шли под дождем – если смотреть весь фильм, видно, насколько сильны ветер и дождь. Во главе парада идет мэр города, участвуют представители партий, правозащитных и благотворительных организаций.
Ашилд Мари Виге (Осло), которая показана в репортаже, посмотрела ролик и сообщила, что она не детский психолог и не жената.
: О сюжете c Теренсом, который поет песню про 2 пап. Он из Голландии. Пенся была спета на детском фестивале в 2006, а потом еще на открытии Евроигр в Антверпене 2007. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuFyMaJHIv8
Автор сюжета:
Антон Чечулинский
Дирекция информационных программ.Заведующий Прибалтийским бюро (Рига)
Родился в Ленинграде 25 августа 1984 года. С мая 2007 года живу в Москве.
В 2006 году окончил Факультет журналистики СПбГУ, получил специальность журналиста. С 2006 года – заочная аспирантура на Факультете журналистики СПбГУ. 2001-2004 – СПб, газета “Вечерний Петербург”, спортивный отдел; внештатный автор.
2004-2005 – СПб, “Пятый канал”, дирекция информационно-аналитического вещания; корреспондент новостей (программа “Сейчас”).
2005-2007 – СПб, ГТРК “Санкт-Петербург”; корреспондент программ “Петербургские Вести”, “События недели”.
С июня 2007-го – Москва, “Первый канал”, дирекция информационных программ; корреспондент новостей и программы “Время”
Женат.
https://www.facebook.com/anton.chechulinskiy/info
с моего разрешения материал перепечатал только сайт http://out-traveler.ru/bergen-2012/
http://ibigdan.com/2012/07/04/v-ozhidanii-radugi/ – поставил ссылку на первоисточник, на “Бергенского зайца”
Про дискриминацию геев в Скандинавии http://ruriktochkase.livejournal.com/33036.html?view=6088204
из этой записи: “Столкновения / нападения на отдельных геев и гейпарады, и др. преступления на почве ненависти к гомосексуалистам исчисляются тысячами. В Скандинавии на периферии, по заявлениям многих гомосексуалистов жить очень тяжело, т.к. если ведут себя “не стандартно” то их просто БьЮТ. Соотв. многие перебираются в большие города.
Из репортажа у Вас есть впечатление что в Скандинавии есть тысячи случаев когда ЛГБТ людей бьют? А что нападения на гей-парады происходят?”
Из своего фильма я во время монтажа о просьбе местных товарищей аккуратно удаляла кадры, где были видны квир-мусульмане, потому что они опасались за свою жизнь, и многие гей-активисты, которые, участвуя в параде, скрывают лица, потому что не могут рассказать нетолерантным родственникам о себе.
Обсуждение репортажа ОРТ на антидогме http://ru-antidogma.livejournal.com/1617731.html
Обсуждение на странице местного квир-лидера, онли френдз: https://www.facebook.com/TorillJF?ref=ts
вот тут лежит мой ролик, оставлены первые титры, большая часть фильма отрезана, на этот ресурс и ссылается первый канал
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXTnUg3igA4&feature=plcp
другие ресурсы, которые использовали мой репортаж
http://nemytaya-eu.livejournal.com/70852.html
http://vasi.net/community/budushhee_pugaet/2012/07/05/detskijj_gejj_parad_4_foto.html
http://alabayuka.livejournal.com/141003.html
http://vkurse.ru/article/r1323/
http://www.3rm.info/25961-v-evrope-vse-otlichno-norvezhskie-deti-uchastvovali-v-gey-parade.html
http://copypast.ru/2012/07/05/forfriend-1-detskijj_gejj_parad_4_foto.html
http://alekssidor.livejournal.com/268428.html
http://www.livejournal.ru/themes/id/55389
http://www.dezinfo.net/foto/57441-detskij-gej-parad-v-norvegii.html
http://www.shans-online.com/news/2012-09-09/lgbt___eto_dvizhenie_svobodyi_seksa_ili_morali/
http://edancingbear.ru/%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8B-1.html
http://cuamckuykot.livejournal.com/172675.html
http://novostey.com/society/news415672.html
http://premiuminfo.ru/v-ozhidanii-radugi/
http://forums.avtograd.ru/index.php?showtopic=191106&st=780
http://mr-olivye.livejournal.com/9873.html
znaki.0pk.ru/viewto pic.php?id=55&p=4
http://www.rusimperia.info/news/id13312.html
http://eduard-456.livejournal.com/56545.html
http://coil-label.livejournal.com/110887.html?mode=reply
http://blogzakon.ru/%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE/%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D1%85%D1%83%D0%B4%D1%88%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F-%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%B5%D0%B2/
http://magspace.ru/blog/zadumaisa/216296.html
http://forum.od.ua/showthread.php?t=146296&page=224&s=308e70482208b23cb226175168830aca
http://forum.rzn.info/viewtopic.php?p=374991
http://arman666.livejournal.com/122486.html
http://www.nedelka-klin.ru/club/index.php?PAGE_NAME=read&FID=28&TID=1784&MID=7126#message7126
http://nibler.ru/stupid/12486-detskiy-gey-parad.html
http://anti.fishki.net/comment.php?id=133939
http://forum.md/Themes/peace/545384
http://www.3rm.info/27347-demokratizaciya-golovnogo-mozga-norvezhskie-pederasty-proveli-detskiy-gey-parad-foto-video.html
http://una-ragazza-o.livejournal.com/496928.html
http://forum.titus.kz/?type=zlo&previd=30111
http://news.nur.kz/224667.html
http://kazaki-msk.ru/nashe-mnenie/propagandu-sodomii-na-rusi-nuzhno-unichtozhat-ognem-i-mechom-v-evrope-uzhe-deti-uchastvuiut-v-gei-paradakh-foto
http://porco.ru/forum/22-memento-ussr/400873—–?limit=30&start=60
http://bcp-news.org.ua/?p=2448
http://blog.fontanka.ru/posts/106704/
http://www.nasha.lv/rus/blog/blogs/fotodnaj/109907.html
http://www.pokrov.lviv.ua/?p=2297
http://www.inform-relig.ru/news/detail.php?ID=4242
http://forum.17marta.ru/index.php?PHPSESSID=i9korj8o6j93mjhjr16vhh2ko1&topic=73.525
http://news.bcm.ru/world/2012/7/04/499529/1
http://pikabu.ru/story/gorod_bergen_norvegiya_may_2012_goda_574418
http://forum.dpni.org/showthread.php?t=45183
http://news2.ru/story/356687/
http://www.police-life.ru/index.php?threads/%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%B9-%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4.1066/
http://aftershock.su/node/10518
http://eot16.ru/archives/3937
http://www.rospisatel.ru/nov2.htm
http://baursak.info/?p=43306
http://cuamckuykot.ru/russia-is-the-worst-country-for-gays-4934.html
http://www.volnovaha.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1882
http://www.forum.for-ua.com/read.php?1,2152877
http://cas1961.livejournal.com/780015.html
http://gunmagazine.com.ua/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=bs1oi90u2kpevo6b4b92p2l102&topic=158074.0
http://ps-84.livejournal.com/114053.html
http://www.norge.ru/news/2012/07/05/19021.html?page=window&t=
http://komiunity.ru/sutvremeni/rossiya-xudshaya-strana-dlya-geev
http://ctakan-divanych.livejournal.com/476424.html
http://dipifr1968.livejournal.com/67239.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
http://polemika.com.ua/news-97552.html
http://tomsk.fm/watch/220421
http://ljfun.livejournal.com/873911.html?thread=16631479
снова украденное видео https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vISr9trS1Cg
http://benegenetriivir.dreamwidth.org/539701.html
Starting September 1 for the first time on TV screens icons indicating age restrictions have appeared. Sometimes it’s +12, sometimes +16, sometimes +18.
Within the past few days the first fine amounting to almost 1 million rubles has been issued to an internet website for giving access to the
In cases like these comparisons to the european experience are being made, but in Scandinavia as it turns out there is a different approach.
Terence is from a family with one mom and one dad. But since his young age he’s being taught that having two dads is at least not worse. That’s what the popular Dutch song that he’s been offered to sing for a kids’ TV program is about.
In a kindergarten in the center of Stockholm filming the children has not been allowed. The reason is that their means of education lead to controversy even inside Sweden itself. However, the principal considers them revolutionary as the kids let go of the stereotypical gender norms. For instance, the staff are not allowed to say the words “he” or “she”. Talking to children they use an invented impersonal pronoun “hen” that’s common among gays and lesbians. It can’t be translated to Russian. The toys here are as impersonal.
“As an example there’s this African gender neutral toy. It shouldn’t be considered a girl just because of its long hair. It’s a genderless toy with a neutral face. It’s up to the child’s imagination whether it’s a boy or a girl, sad or happy” – says the deputy principal of the kindergarten Anders Bengtsson.
There are no stories about the little mermaid, snow white or the sleeping beauty being read to the children. In the teachers’ opinion a masculine or a feminine character are also stereotypes. Instead of this there are books in which you can’t understand if they’re about a boy or a girl.
This kind of literature with an unconventional view on life is filling the shelves of the scandinavian book stores. One of these stores is about a boy and his dad that’s got a friend. At first the main character is curious, then he’s feeling jealous but eventually he’s accepting the man as a member of the family.
In Norway it’s taught since school that the concept of a traditional family is severely outdated. It’s one of the initiatives of the community of sexual minorities – lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transgendered individuals, LGBT in short. A Center as part of the Ministry of Children has been specifically created to work on educational projects.
“Year after year the education system is getting better. Mathematical problems talking about a family with two dads are appearing in the math books. We visit schools and talk to the students about what it is to be gay. Our goal is to make people see all the variety” – says the leader of a Norwegian LGBT association Bard Nulund.
Gay activists assure that a gay pride parade in which children take part is necessary to promote tolerance within the society. And they accuse the opponents of underaged children attending these demonstrations in the lack of tolerance. Even the church doesn’t haveg enough authority in these debates.
“Many of the people criticizing gays are afraid of being called extremists. The government affects the independence of the church by forcefully promoting tolerance. You will never be in the church if you’re a homophobic priest, moreover, gay priests are the preference” – says the head of the information department of the Norwegian Lutheran Mission Espen Ottosen.
5 years ago there’s been no social advertisements on this subject but now it shares a significant percentage of all the programs shown on TV in many European contries.
The minority are those that state “it’s not as much of fighting the old stereotypes anymore as it’s pushing new ones”. Only a small number of people are not afraid to say the same. One of the few who have agreed for an interview is a young politician Morten Dahle Stark.
“In my point of view homosexuality is surely not normal but when we talk about it we get letters with threats and warnings. Discussing this subject here is very hard because the homosexuals’ interests are supported by the scientific and political elites of the country” – says a member of the Christian peoples’ party of Norway, an independent expert of the Staffeldtsgate college Morten Dahle Stark.
“Our past Minister of Finance came out as homosexual upon taking a seat in the government. This is what he writes: “When I finally came out to myself as gay I became more self-confident and my life of a loner ended at last”” – says one of the authors of the book “Gay kids” Rolf Martin Angeltvedt.
It’s a quote from the book “Gay kids” that can be literally translated as “gay-kids”. It’s about the childhood of people of nontraditional sexual orientation. The authors dream of it becoming a school book and also getting published in English for the readers in other countries. This project has huge support in Norway but beyond the borders you can face certain accusations.
“Many say that we want there to be more gay kids. In reality the kids that will see their true selves and find out whether they are gay or not because of our book, they will have less issues with drugs and mental health” – thinks one of the authors of the book “Gay kids” Rolf Martin Angeltvedt.
“We can call all of it propaganda. There’s a very successful campaign going targeting children, among others. When instead of talking about the traditional role of family in society they say that homosexuality is normal and great, it misleads the kids. The value system is changing” – confidently says the analyst of an organiation Christian Concern Peter Norris.
The child psychologist Ashild Marie Vige came to the interview with her wife, and they are just happy with the changes in the value system. In Norway there are more than 20 thousands of kids growing up in same-sex families. Two thirds of the society support this adoption practice.
“Generally it’s still considered to be normal to live with a mom and a dad. But it’s not the norm for many kids. Is there a reason to not allow same-sex parents to have a child? In that case we would stop improving the society and let the bad side win” – says a child psychologist Ashild Marie Vige.
Kjell Erik, previously known in the whole Norway as a gay activist and now deputy minister of health, regards same-sex family as an important part of a modern tolerant society. This is his husband Tron and these are the children Tobias and Bastian that the adoptive parents educate with the help of their two biological moms who are lesbians.
“One day my son asked: “listen, is it true that a man can also marry a woman?” Then I explained to him: “it’s what the majority of the men do. And perhaps you will also marry a woman. If not, it’s not that important. Yes, sometimes we gays get gay kids but they also appear in heterosexual families” – notes the deputy minister of health of Norway Kjell Erik Ule.
Yet there are no official demographics on this subject either in Norway or other countries. It’s only recently that the sexual minorities have started adopting in large quantities. While the majority of psychologists warns that every kind of knowledge must have its time. And kids sinking into the world of adults’ problems will rather puzzle than help. There is the age of purity and only upon overcoming it the child is ready to form their own tastes and bonds. Including the tolerance to those that are different from them.
translator: Rose